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Episode 1 - Gettin' Heady with Runtz

Updated: Jan 11, 2022


Rows upon rows of growing cannabis plants in a greenhouse at Sunmed.
Sunmed Grow Facility

Welcome to The Heady Conversations with your hosts Miranda and Scott! On this debut episode, we'll discuss our impression of the new Sunmed strain, Runtz, which is new to the Maryland market. We look back on the good times on 2021 and what we're looking forward to in 2022.


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Transcript


[INTRO MUSIC - "Heady Ways" by Fly Golden Eagle]

Miranda:

Hello, and welcome to heady conversations with Scott and Miranda.

Scott:

Also. Yeah, happy new year because it's still in the the happy new year window, I feel like.

Miranda:

Absolutely.

Scott:

Who are we? And why are we here?

Miranda:

Well, my name is Miranda and I am a Maryland cannabis professional, and patient. And I have a passion for all things cannabis and getting people the right meds for what they need.

Scott:

And I am Scott, also, @YourCannabisCoach. You can find me on Instagram and all that good stuff. Also a registered Maryland medical patient and cannabis professional. Both of those things are new to this past year. But my experience with cannabis obviously is not new to this past year. So we're here to share our experiences, the knowledge that we've gained as professionals in this industry. Yeah, to help you navigate this wild and wonderful world of cannabis in the United States and 2022.

Miranda:

It sure is a wild ride.

Scott:

So yeah, we're gonna be doing a lot of different things with this show. One of those things that we wanted to do is bring you some flower reviews because who doesn't love to hear about the latest and greatest flower that's out there now. So this week, what do we have Miranda?

Miranda:

This week? We've got Runtz by Sunmed. She's looking really nice at 32%.

Scott:

She is looking beautiful. Yeah, THC A is coming in at 32.62%. So she is definitely high test. Total Terps, we've got 1.87%, highest Terp is going to be Miss myrcene at .53%, and then we've got caryophyllene, limonene, and linalool All right above .30%. Yeah, so a nice well rounded, I guess indica leaning hybrid.

Miranda:

I would say indica leaning hybrid, for sure.

Scott:

Yeah.

Miranda:

Nice afternoon smoke.

Scott:

And neither of us has smoked Runtz before at least not Sunmed Runtz.

Miranda:

She's brand new to both of us.

Scott:

She's brand new to the Maryland market, you've probably heard of Runtz most commonly as a Cookies strain. So it's nice to see these genetics kind of getting into different people's hands so we can see some different expressions of the plant.


Miranda:

[opens jar]

Mmmm, she's, she's really she's a wonderful scent.

Scott:

She does smell beautiful. I'm getting some real like earthy, almost like musty overtones. And I don't mean that in a bad way at all. Definitely. I would say dank.

Miranda:

She's definitely dank, but and also herbally sweet. I definitely got lavander...

Scott:

Yeah, some sweetness, almost a little bit of what I associate I think most commonly as like gelato creaminess...

Miranda:

MMMhmmmm...

Scott:

Because I tend to find it and a lot of the different gelato strains.

Miranda:

I feel like I'm getting a contact high, just from sniffing this.

Scott:

Super frosty. And we will definitely, you know, put up some pictures of both this Terp profile and the bud itself so that everybody can experience and know exactly, you know what we're dealing with and what we're testing. But beautiful, beautiful flower. I don't see any purple in my batch.

Miranda:

Mine has some purple in it.

Scott:

Mainly in mine. It's just different dark green, light green. And just like I said, totally frost covered. Oh, yeah, yours does have some nice purple.

Miranda:

There's some purple in there.

Scott:

Yeah, I guess we should note for the audience. We are not sharing meds. We both have our own versions of this that we acquired. So that we can you know, keep everything on the up and up totally legal. Maybe one day we'll be able to share medicine with each other but not today. Not today. And I'm going to be trying this runs out of one of my favorite delivery systems. A little mini King Palm, one gram. I've got nice and ground up and and packed down in here firmly. We did both notice when we were doing our grind that she's still a little bit moist.

Miranda:

She could use probably a little bit more drying time.

Scott:

So maybe just you know, leave the lid slightly cracked on your jar...

Miranda:

She does not need a Boveda.

Scott:

No, no. Definitely, definitely fresh flower for sure. nice and sticky. Yeah, let's let's get to it

Miranda:

I'm going to be smoking mine out of a Trippy Jay preroll. They're organic, hemp papers.

Scott:

Wow!

Miranda:

That's nice! Smooth!

Scott:

Super smooth for the THC.

Miranda:

Very smooth for high THC strains.

Scott:

You know, a lot of times on the stuff that's over 30% I find that even if it's not particularly gassy smelling, it still has kind of that really sharp, first inhale.

Miranda:

Right?! yeah, a biting inhale.

Scott:

As your body kind of adjust to...

Miranda:

Oh, whoa!

Scott:

To what's going on here, but this is super, super smooth.

Miranda:

She just tastes great, too.

Scott:

Yeah, a little bit of that, herbaceousness and that sweetness that you mentioned, that really I wasn't picking up too much on the nose, but I'm definitely getting it now in the flavor.

Miranda:

Do you do a dry inhale before you start, lighting? Just to sort of taste the flower?

Scott:

You know, you usually I do. But I haven't medicated yet today. I think you mentioned earlier, that you haven't either. So yeah, no, I didn't today. Today, I just jumped right into it. But I do often do that.

Miranda:

Definitely has a floral, pre light inhale taste with that creamy gelato behind it.

Scott:

Wow. Yeah, I'm, I'm impressed.

Miranda:

I'm a fan!

Scott:

You know, Sunmed is one of those growers that I feel like, you know, things things go up and down in the grow world. And people I feel I kind of get into streaks of really good stuff. Or sometimes you find a grower that's running into a little bit of trouble, whether it's with seeds, or trimming or what have you. And I definitely feel like Sunmed as this year went on got better and better. And that's, that's why I chose this strain for us to review this time because I feel like it's kind of an example of the best of what Sunmed has to offer. As far as you know, high test medicine, which is a critique that, you know, some people have had in them of them in the past.

Miranda:

And a really nice cure of this because it's white ashing.

Scott:

Beautiful white ash, totally firm. One of the reasons I love these King Palms is that they burn really slowly. So yeah, I've got this nice, like, ice capped glacier on the end of this puppy right now looking, looking real nice.

Miranda:

Good flush.

Scott:

So yeah, maybe we should tell them about our tour?

Miranda:

Let's talk about the tour!

Scott:

Yeah, I mean, so the other reason we wanted to talk about Sunmed on this first episode is because we both had the opportunity to go and toured their facility this past year.

Miranda:

And it's beautiful.

Scott:

Absolutely gorgeous, epic is the word that I would used.

Miranda:

And surprisingly epic.

Scott:

Yeah. I mean, if you've never been to one of these modern cannabis grower's operations, they are on a scale that is hard to imagine. You know, I can't remember how many football fields worth of greenhouses that we walked through, but it was but it was just one it was building after building after building and that was just the grow facility.

Miranda:

And they have a Dutch growth system, too.

Scott:

Yeah, so they do things in the Dutch style. For people who don't know Sunmed is actually a company that got its start in the business because they are flower growers. Like botanical you know, I don't even know, what esthetic flowers? How do we distinguish between just being floral?

Miranda:

I guess it would just be, like floral arrangement flowers? Yeah, regular old flowers?

Scott:

Right? Because obviously, when we say the word flower these days as cannabis professionals, it tends to mean you know, standard old school method of THC. But yeah, Sunmed got its start in the actual flower flower game. And just decided, hey, cannabis is another flower. We know how to grow flowers. Let's do this. Yeah, and I mean, their big thing as you might guess, from the name is powered by the sun, right? So yeah, no, LEDs or crazy high powered, you know? Like you may be familiar seeing pictures in High Times of the indoor grow rooms or what have you.

Miranda:

I feel like it's the closest thing to an outdoor grow that we can get in the state of Maryland that's going to produce...

Scott:

...consistent year round.

Miranda:

Consistant year round, right, flower.

Scott:

Yeah, because there are people doing outdoor grows here. Super, super limited. And frankly, some of the quality on that outdoor flower. Yeah, not not great. And it's, you know, it is what it is.

Miranda:

It's outdoor Maryland flower.

Scott:

Cannabis is no different than, you know grapes in that the terroir, you know, the climate, the soil, you know, whatever it is that makes up place that place is going to determine, you know, how successful your cannabis grow can be what type of cannabis is going to have success there?

Miranda:

And every, I mean, you can move it from one pot to another, and it will, it will change depending on what it's next to. Yeah, so cannabis is a weird little flower.

An amazing, an amazing flower. She's gonna she's just gonna change with the wind.

Scott:

And you know, I mean, yeah, cannabis does grow easily. But growing great, high quality cannabis is another story. I mean, we, we call it a weed because yeah, if you give it light and water, that plant will grow and she will grow a ton. You know, cannabis grows. I mean, I think really, bamboo is the only thing that I can think of...

Miranda:

Next to hemp...

Scott:

Grows like, you know, quicker than cannabis. But cannabis, if you give it light and water, it will get taller than you very quickly. But it's not going to produce great, but if it's taller than you, and you just let it get there, you know...

Miranda:

It needs a little help. And it needs good sun and good atmospheric conditions to get the beautiful bud that we have in our jars in Maryland.

Scott:

Yeah, I mean, I, I think, you know, unfortunately, growing our own here in Maryland is not possible. But I think, you know, a lot of cannabis users at some point or another have tossed a seed in a pot...

Miranda:

Hoped for the best? (laughs)

Scott:

And, and seen what, what would happen. And if you've ever done that, then you know, yeah, it takes a lot of care and a decent amount of knowledge to produce, you know, the kind of flower that that we get medicinally, you know, in this market. And, you know, in my experience, I can't really say I've ever been to a state that has, you know, legal cannabis that isn't of a high quality, you know, I mean..

Miranda:

For sure.

Scott:

Certain growers are better than others for sure. But yeah, I mean, if you're going to put it out there on the market, reputations, everything, it doesn't benefit anybody to put junk out there.

Miranda:

I've had some of the most beautiful flower in rec states. But, we have beautiful flower here too and it's becoming more and more impressive as the Terps, like get higher on the different strains. You know, I'm not a giant high THC fan...

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

But definitely, if I see a strain with high Terps I get super excited. But this Runtz is amazing and delicious.

Scott:

I am feeling very relaxed, like super, super relaxed, floaty. Yeah, everything's kind of loose and light. Yeah, I'm definitely, definitely diggin in the Runtz.

Miranda:

I feel like I wanna do a little noodle dance. *giggles*

Scott:

*laughs* And that just means we're gonna have to get video going soon. Because you can't tell people you're gonna do a noodle dance and then not have them be able to see that. I feel like that's something we're going to need to share with the world.

Miranda:

So true.

Scott:

Yeah, I mean, you know, thank you. You know, this is not part of the official outline. But I think we should take a moment just to thank people for joining us.

Miranda:

Yeah, for sure!

Scott:

You know, this is something we've been talking about, the two of us, I think, both on our own for a while. And then I think you reached out to me about actually doing this.

Miranda:

Yeah, I, um... I like to talk about weed. Let's just, I mean, let's be straight about it.

Scott:

Amen.

Miranda:

I can talk about weed all day long. And so I figured what better thing to do then to get a best bud. *laughs*

Scott:

Puns galore, people we're not going to say no pun intended, because frankly, we probably do intend them quite often. But they're just so many that we're not even going to catch them all. If somebody wants to do a pun counter feel free to do that.

Miranda:

We're very funny people and also dad jokey people, so...

Scott:

There's some dad jokes. We are technically parents, me to Possum, my wonderful cat, Miranda to her pack of pooches.

Miranda:

Wolves [laughter]: Cheech, Linus, and Buttercup. Those insane little creatures...

Scott:

Who have all been sequestered upstairs for the purposes of this podcast. Yeah, but maybe you all meet them in the future?

Miranda:

Or maybe you've already met them!

Scott:

Yeah, that's true. We, you know, hopefully we've got some friends listening in. I know a lot of people have already, you know, liked us on social media and all that good stuff and expressed support and anticipation for us doing this.

Miranda:

And, we appreciate that.

Scott:

Oh, my God. You know, we can't thank you enough. If we didn't think that there were people out there that wanted to hear this, we wouldn't be doing it as much as we love talking about this stuff. The other part of what we enjoy doing most is helping people.

Miranda:

For sure.

Scott:

You know, cannabis is a super personal thing. And, you know, the recommendation I give you is based on my experience and my knowledge, which comes from my reading and research and classes I've taken. But with all that said, neither one of us is medical professionals, we are cannabis professionals. So we are here to share our cannabis experiences and our cannabis knowledge. But please, always, you know, consult your physician, you know, cannabis should be used, in addition to, you know, other, more traditional medicine to treat whatever you're dealing with. And all that is stuff that you need to talk to your doctor about, you know, yeah.

Miranda:

I like to think of cannabis as an additional medicine, it's a an additional holistic medicine that you can add to your repertoire.

Scott:

Absolutely. I mean, I mean, you know, I was a, I was a bartender for 20 years, before I got involved in cannabis. The pandemic is what finally, you know, got me to make that industry shift and get away from food and beverage, most specifically alcohol and cocktails, and transition over into cannabis. And, you know, I saw great sign behind somebody bar when I was 23, or 24. That said, bartenders are just pharmacists with a very limited inventory. And I mean, I just think that moving over to cannabis just gives me another, you know, thing in the tool belt, to you know, deal with my own, you know, ailments and whatever, but also to help friends, family, you know, people that may be in front of me as a patient or client navigate this world for themselves.

Miranda:

Absolutely.

Scott:

Because this medicines expensive.

Miranda:

It's very expensive. Yeah, I transitioned into cannabis from a holistic skincare background and aroma therapy background. So for me, looking at the back of a cannabis container and seeing linalool and limonene just takes me back to my aromatherapy education gets me super pumped about something that's going to taste citrusy or herbal and give me the effects that, say, lemon oil or grapefruit oil would give me with like that nice high mood boost. Or you know, if I'm going to bed I'm going to sprinkle some lavender essential oil on my pillows and get knocked the fuck out.

Scott:

Right? Yeah, lavender, linalool, of course, Lavender Jones here in Maryland. Super relaxing.

Miranda:

Super high myrcene on that one too.

Scott:

Yeah. Really nice, bedtime strain to tuck you in with, for sure.

Miranda:

Mmmmhmmm

Scott:

And yeah, I mean, you know, I think, yeah, that if you have any sort of background with fresh herbs, even cooking, you know...

Miranda:

100%

Scott:

You know, you know, the different qualities that different herbs bring to a dish and that whole dining experience and how much the whole, you know, aroma of something plays into how much you enjoy it. You know, I mean, if you've got a stuffy nose, you know, what's, what's the first thing most of us complain about when we're stuffed up?

Miranda:

Right, like I can't smell anything!

Scott:

Can't smell anything, can't taste anything. Right? Like I can't, you know, if I can't smell that's why you don't want to eat when you're sick a lot of the time...

Miranda:

Because you're not tasting the food as much because you're all stuffed up.

Scott:

But yeah, so yeah, I think it's like you said it's just another it's another aspect of a comprehensive health approach and regimen that's available for us to use, right? Is cannabis For everyone, absolutely not.

Miranda:

No.

Scott:

I've known people that are literally allergic to cannabis.

Miranda:

Mmmhmm

Scott:

You know, I remember my buddy Brian, when we were young had to leave the room, you know, because he would get nauseous.

Miranda:

Oh, Woah!

Scott:

Like, literally nauseous, you know if he was around cannabis and for the longest time, you know, he's square...

[laughter]

Miranda:

But he was actually allergic.

Scott:

He didn't know he was actually I was literally allergic to cannabis he had a physical reaction to being in the room while we were smoking. I guess you know, maybe that's something that we should bring up too. Something to note that there are different delivery systems, right?

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

Maybe cannabis isn't all about smoking. And it could be that if he had tried cannabis a different way via edibles or something else like a topical or transdermal maybe he wouldn't have had that reaction. Maybe it was the actual smoke

Miranda:

For sure. Or you know, even a vape.

Scott:

Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot we don't know about vaping yet, but I think at the very least we can say that it's not combustion, so you don't have that heat. You know?

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

Yes, it's there's a heating element involved...

Miranda:

But it's not combusting.

Scott:

It's not as violent as taking right off your hemp wick. If you're being fancy, and clean.

Miranda:

Yes.

Scott:

I feel like I should use hemp wick more. I'm just too lazy to do it.

Miranda:

Me too. Honestly, same.

Scott:

But I highly recommend it and you should look into it if you haven't before. Hemp Wick is a cool little product that you can light the wick and not be using your lighter each time to you know, fire up the plant. So it's a little bit cleaner. You're not getting that butane or that you know, whatever lighter fuel is being used to fire up...

Miranda:

Just don't use matches.

Scott:

Oh my god the sulfur? No, please.

Miranda:

[laughter] Please don't.Yeah, that's the worst.

Scott:

I can't. It's been a long time. I haven't even...

Miranda:

I've done that once. And only once.

Scott:

Learned your lesson?

Miranda:

Learned my lesson well. Oh, my goodness. So let's um, I know 2021 was a wild year. For all of us.

[laughter]

Scott: Ya think?

Miranda:

I think we're still like, like loosening our fingertips from the, the the bar that we've all been holding on. And trying not to scream and screaming within our hearts as we're on this roller coaster of a few years now. So we've got some, some top stuff. What did you see in 2021 that you just absolutely fucking loved and couldn't live without?

Scott:

So new products to me. Like I said, I got my med card this past year. Well, I guess right at the end of 2020, technically. So everything is kind of new to me, I would say that the realm of edibles to me has probably been the most fun to explore.

Miranda:

For sure.

Scott:

And 2021 saw some big changes here in Maryland to the edibles market. Some legislation went into effect limiting the dosage of most of the edibles in the States...

Miranda:

MMmm Hmmm

Scott:

But not all, interestingly enough. So yeah, we used to have a wide variety of high dosage stuff. You know, my tolerance is pretty high, but I do a fair amount of T maintenance, you know, taking little breaks and working CBD stuff into my regimen to help regulate that tolerance a little bit. So I can still feel a 10 milligram.

Miranda:

Which a lot of people are not like us...

Scott:

Yeah, so we always recommend right edibles. We talk about low and slow...

Miranda:

Low and slow...

Scott:

Slow and low however you go. You know...

Miranda:

Don't go big or go home.

Scott:

Don't be macho. And that's, you know, don't, don't think that because you can smoke a lot. You can necessarily eat a lot, right? Because we all know or maybe you don't know, you know when when cannabis is ingested and broken down through the digestive system. It is a literally chemically different experience than it is when it's inhaled, and goes into your bloodstream through you know, your lungs and entering that way.

Miranda:

Yeah, first of all, it's going to take a little bit more time to get into your bloodstream, because it's being processed through your liver. So you won't have that immediate hit of high it's going to take, if you're lucky, a half an hour.

Scott:

Sure.

Miranda:

Some of the quick onsets right that are out on the market now, but it can take anywhere up to two hours. If not more.

Scott:

Absolutely, right. And and, you know, we talked about cannabis being an individual experience, right? And this is definitely not only one of those situations, but also one of those situations where, how much sleep did you get last night? You know.

Miranda:

How much fat Have you eaten today?

Scott:

Right? You know, cannabis, if you're not aware, needs a little bit of fat, to help break it down and kind of deliver it into your body in a way that you're going to get the full effect of that medicine. So yeah, you know, what's in your stomach? How tired are you? You know, what are you doing? Are you are you up and active? Are you you know...

Miranda:

Oh, definitely because if you're active, or you're increasing your blood pressure, that's going to take effect much more quickly.

Scott:

Right. So yeah, you definitely want to you know, typically, we recommend people start with like a two and a half to five milligram dosage is what I typically recommend.

Miranda:

100%

Scott:

And you want to wait at least, at least 30 minutes but I think...

Miranda:

An hour.

Scott:

I recommend 45 minutes to an hour, you know.

Miranda:

Especially with your first dose.

Scott:

Oh, first dose for sure!

Miranda:

Please, please wait.

Scott:

Yeah, definitely wait an hour on a first dose, because it can be, right, it's, it's not a matter of anything physically happening to you. If you take too much that first time.

Miranda:

It's not gonna kill you.

Scott:

Right? Literally.

Miranda:

It's just not.

Scott:

No one has ever, but to the best of my knowledge, still to this day, actually died from an overdose of THC. Now, you can have a real a negative reaction and uncomfortable high to the point where you do something drastic, you know, people have have harmed themselves people have, you know, done stupid things and reacted in ways, overreacted in ways and done bad things. But it's nothing physical that the THC did.

Miranda:

No, nope, no, it's a it's one of those things where maybe you want to like, write yourself a note.

[laughter]

Scott:

Totally!

Miranda

Just in case.

Scott:

Yeah!

Miranda:

You know, Hey, dear Miranda, this is you. You are high right now. And it's gonna be okay. If you might feel uncomfortable, but it's just gonna be temporary. It may be eight hours temporary, with an edible, but you know, sometimes you just have to check in with a buddy. You know, text a friend. Hey, I took this edible. I'm feeling a little creepy. Um, reach out to me.

Scott:

Yep.

Miranda:

Give me a chat. You're gonna be fine.

Scott:

Yep. Yeah, stuff. Like, that's really important. You know, it's, it is important to note that this is a drug, you know, it's going to affect the way you think the way you feel. That's the point. Right?

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

You know, and that's why things like tolerance, are so important to manage and to be aware of, because that's the thing that's going to help you be responsible and get the most efficiency out of...

Miranda:

Definitely.

Scott:

Your medicine, you know, and and have the best chance at kind of, you know, targeting the effects that you want, you know, the the more knowledge you have of yourself and of the plant, the better your experience is going to be.

Miranda:

I would love to see those, have you seen that the cannabis test kits that they have in Canada now?

Scott:

No!

Miranda:

So essentially, it's a swab. You swab the inside of your cheek, you put the little swab into the little thing of solution. You send it back to a lab, they send you results back. Pretty much letting you know what kind of cannabis you should be smoking.

Scott:

Okay.

Miranda:

It taps into your entire endocannabinoid system where there are deficits. And like, you know, if you are somebody who needs more rest, you know, you're going to things that are higher in CBN, CBG, linalool, myrcene. As opposed to, you know, just a high test whatever. I know that sounds fascinating to me. And I want it. I want it now.

Scott:

Yeah, that's interesting. Are they are they available for us to get here?

Miranda:

I have not seen that they are available. I think it's only just in Canada proper, currently. So, it'll be interesting to see if we get federally introduced into adult use, where things will go with that.

Scott:

Yeah, big if, big if.

Miranda:

Big if.

Scott:

Fingers crossed.

Miranda:

We're not-- We're not promising anything.

Scott:

Right, there are lots of talks on both the state and federal level. You know, and I guess that's a decent thing to to get into is the things that we're looking forward to in 2022.

Miranda:

For sure. Um, so there's a big bill that's been filed. Senator Jill Carter actually plans to file an adult use legislation bill next week. So that will introduce and emphasize social equity, home cultivation and criminal justice reform.

The bill is being drafted in partnership with the ACLU of Maryland, and specifically, specifically addresses home grow. To direct more than half of the tax revenue from rec/adult use to communities harmed by the War on Drugs, expungement of previous weed related convictions, and more steps that will put equity at the forefront of the state's transition to adult use legalization, which would be for 21 and over. The proposal is a companion to a bill filed by delegate Luke Clippinger in December that seeks to put the question of legalization on the state ballot for the November 2022, General Election, so get out and vote in November.

Scott:

Yes, please, people: if you are not political in any other way, and I don't think either one of us intends to make this a political show in general. But if you're not political in any other way, you got to support people who support an end to cannabis prohibition.

Miranda:

It's ridiculous.

Scott:

It's just that simple. It's the greatest issue of racial disparity in arrests, in you know, sentencing, it, you know, you're you're more likely to get stopped. If you are stopped, you're more likely to get searched, if you are searched, you're more likely to be charged. If you are charged, you're more likely to be found guilty. If you're found guilty, you're more likely to serve longer sentence times. This is all fact.

Miranda:

100%

Scott:

You know, it's it's undeniable that the war on drugs is a racist. The war on drugs was created to be racist.

Miranda:

Yep!

Scott:

The War on Drugs continues to be and will always be racist.

Miranda:

So, when you vote, just say yes!

Scott:

Yeah. It's really that simple. You know, there, there have been other bills talked about, you know, there was a referendum discussion. But that referendum doesn't have anything about homegrown. And I know, to me personally, the thing that I have always said is, I want to be able to grow my own medicine, period. Amen.

Miranda:

Yeah.

Scott:

And no, you know, four plants, two plants, nothing ridiculous, like they've they've tried to do in some of the states, you know, let people grow enough plants that they can have enough medicine that they need to treat the variety of things that we're all using cannabis for.

Miranda:

Because let's be let's be honest, how many of us are absolutely chasing strains?

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

Across the state?

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

I know, I'm one of those patients.

Scott:

Yeah. There are things that you just can't find in Maryland. Yeah. And that's you know, we've got some absolutely great growers here. You know, there's lots of people doing lots of fantastic work with the the strains that we have available.

Miranda:

For sure.

Scott:

But it's limited.

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

I know all the time and I know you probably get sick you hear me talk about it, but there's so few strains that have high pinene here, you know.

Miranda:

Yes, you are one of the few people I hear talking about.

[laughter]

Scott:

Okay, doesn't make me anxious. I've only I'm lucky knock on wood, I have only ever had a few experiences on cannabis. And in my experience, my anxiety is generally triggered more by high THC...

Miranda:

Interesting.

Scott:

Than it is any particular Terp. To me, you know, something that's over 28%, 29%, definitely has more of a chance of making me feel overwhelmed or, you know, yeah. Then something that's 18% regardless of whether it's got pinene or limonene, or linalool or whatever. And yeah, I mean, strains with high myrcene are great, but a strain with high myrcene with super high THC can still...

Miranda:

Make you a little anxious?

Scott:

Yeah, give me that anxiety and amp me up.

Miranda:

As you can see, I've only smoked half my joint. And I'm like, Okay, I know when to stop! [laughter]

Scott:

I mean, I'd say I went, these are.

Miranda:

Those are one gram, aren't they?

Scott:

So, these are a gram or this is a one gram King palm mini, it is my preferred leaf of choice. They're their actual leaves from a palm tree. So they're super, I guess ecological in that.

Miranda:

They're lovely.

Scott:

No actual tree has been cut down. I find that they burned super smooth and super slow. And no, this is not a paid advertisement for King Palm. We are not sponsored by anyone, yet.

Miranda:

Yet.

Scott:

But, yeah, I think I smoked about half half of that.

Miranda:

I knew looking at 30% plus THC that I was going to put that out probably about halfway through or I was not going to be able to finish this podcast.

Scott:

[laughter] Especially, as a first of the day.

Miranda:

Looking, looking for a pillow in a blanket.

Scott:

It was a little bit, it was a little bit heavy, but I'm not...

Miranda:

I mean, I'm not mad.

Scott:

What was the myrcene again?

Miranda:

I'm in a really good mood, I'll tell you that.

Scott:

0.53%, yeah, so not not a hammer over the head by any means.

Miranda:

No. But also like really nice limonene at 0.41%.

Scott:

Yeah, no, I feel super...

Miranda:

Chill.

Scott:

Yeah, super chill, super relaxed...

Miranda:

Happy.

Scott:

Happy. Having a good time talking about cannabis with our friends. (laughs)

Miranda:

Yeah. The awesome thing about this bill, is that you'd be able to possess up to four ounces of flower for all Maryland adults age 21 and up.

Scott:

That's cool. So I wonder, I wonder if that's in an attempt to expand on the caregiver program?

Miranda:

I would hope so.

Scott:

Right? For those of you who don't know, because I feel like a lot of people don't know this about Maryland, right? You can actually have someone designated as your cannabis caregiver. And that enables them to do a number of things. They can go shop for you at the dispensary. They can handle your meds, transport your meds to and from the dispensary. They can also do things like pre roll cones for someone who's got arthritic hands or carpal tunnel or, you know, a broken arm...

Miranda:

Or all sorts of whatever.

Scott:

Or make edibles for someone who is not able to make their own. Yeah, you know, for whatever reason, whether they're just not good in the kitchen, or they just, you know, have have some sort of, you know, something stopping them from doing that. So, yeah, to me, I would assume that that is targeted towards some sort of expansion on the caregiver program.

Miranda:

I hope so. I hope so.

Scott:

Which I wonder, I wonder if other states have similar programs? I don't, I've never looked into that. In any of the other states.

Miranda:

I was trying to talk a friend of mine through the the website of Pennsylvania the other night. And I'll tell you, all of all of the state's Medical websites are not user friendly.

Scott:

That is probably one of the biggest things that people come to me with when they find out that I, you know, have worked in the industry is is there some sort of backdoor that you all have to get into this thing?

Miranda:

MMM, no.

Scott:

Like, is there some way that you can do this thing that I'm trying to do that makes me feel like I'm beating my head against a wall?

Miranda:

Yeah, in fact, my certification is up in March and I'm dreading my renewal, to say the least.

Scott:

Yeah. They don't make it easy. I mean, I guess they made it a little bit easier in this Maryland, in Maryland this past year by getting rid of the picture Because I know a lot of people that got their card pushed back to them because the picture wasn't right.

Miranda:

Oh, interesting...

Scott:

You know, you send in a passport photo right passport style photo. And yeah, I probably know 20%, 25% of the people that I talked to that got pushback got pushed back because of the same.

Miranda:

That's insane.

Scott:

I just downloaded an app. There was a free app...

Miranda:

Take your own passport photo app.

Scott:

Yeah, seriously. And just went in and you know, stood against a white stood against my white closet door in my bedroom and snapped a photo real quick. But yeah. Yeah. I appreciate you doing the homework on the bill. Because I did not have time to read up on Senator Carter's bill. Before we recorded this. I had read up on that Referendum Bill...

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

That was talked about beforehand. And I think, yeah, I was very unhappy because it didn't have home grow.

Miranda:

Exactly. I think anyone who works in the industry...

Scott:

There was something else that he didn't address that I really can't, can't recall at the moment.

Miranda:

But well, it also calls for 60% of all tax revenue to be directed back into communities most negatively affected by the war on drugs.

Scott:

Yeah. And I mean, how those things are always defined is interesting, but there have definitely been some places that have done it well.

Miranda:

Oh, for sure.

Scott:

I've definitely, you know, you know, as doing research, for myself in this industry, you find and follow people all over the country. And it definitely seems like some of the equity stuff that's going on and like Illinois, and Michigan, in particular. I've read about some cool stuff out there.

Miranda:

Yes.

Scott:

So, yeah. Fingers crossed again, hopefully, you know, cottage industry is something else...

Miranda:

Cottage industry will be amazing.

Scott:

You know, I would like to see because obviously, right now, the cost, the barriers of entry into becoming a license holder in Maryland...

Miranda:

That actually is on there.

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

For sure. It's in Senator-- Senator Carter's bill. Yeah. Well, that's to get more minority business owners in the industry, which I think is definitely very important.

Scott:

Absolutely. You know, it shouldn't be the same people moving their money from one industry to the next to get rich now in cannabis.

Miranda:

Yeah.

Scott:

And I think, you know, obviously, we've seen a little bit of that, in most of the markets at this point already. And I think we're already starting to see international consolidation, in some cases...

Miranda:

In Germany, who would have thought?

Scott: In Canadian and US companies? Yeah. Well, now, obviously, at talks in Germany and Mexico, has has moved a lot of cannabis legislation in the past year.

Miranda:

And quickly.

Scott:

Yeah. Yeah.

Miranda:

Not like Maryland's snail's crawl to the finish line.

Scott:

You know, we always, I feel like we always, you know, we did it with gambling. And I'm not endorsing gambling or anything like that. I'm just saying, Maryland has a tendency to watch what the neighbors do. First. Yeah. Before we we jump in fully ourselves.

Miranda:

Most definitely.

Scott:

But yeah, I mean, that's we I would hope, you know, that that's what we would be looking at something that allows people to get in, that have have paid the consequences of this, you know, war on drugs. And, you know, let's let's people join in on the green wave of gold.

Miranda:

Yes! Let's be honest, there's only one minority owned grow in Maryland.

Scott:

Yeah.

Miranda:

Only one.

Scott:

And and right. If I'm not mistaken, Maryland had to redo the licensing process.

Miranda:

Yes.

Scott:

Because they got sued into...

Miranda:

Yes.

Scott:

Redoing the licensing process, because it was found that they had not been inclusive, in who they had, you know, given licenses to the first time around, and that's part of what took the industry in Maryland so long is that we had to go back through that process. And I mean, yeah, that's, you know, Virginia, obviously passed all their legislation right before a Republican governor got in there. I mean, he just came out this past week, and spoke on his intentions. As far as cannabis goes, I think basically what he said, you know, don't quote me, but basically What he said is I'm not going to stand in the way of anything that's been passed so far. But I also don't know that I want pot stores in my state.

Miranda:

[groan]

Scott:

So okay, you know, like I don't, so we're gonna have another DC situation?

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

Where there's, you know, kind of this gray area of...

Miranda:

Whereas, when we went to the Spark event...

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

We got to listen to the woman who used to be Maryland's...

Scott:

She was the chair of Maryland MMCC, I believe.

Miranda:

And now she's the chair of Virginia's...

Scott:

Yeah. Spark is a great organization for anybody who's already in the cannabis industry, or, you know, wants to learn more about the cannabis industry, run by some women here in Maryland that are friends of Miranda and I's. But yeah, they had their first ever of their networking events outside of the state of Maryland, down there in Virginia. And it was it was super cool to meet the people that were there. And everybody's super optimistic and rip roaring.

Miranda:

It was super cool, they were excited, ready to lean...

Scott:

Yeah. I mean, you know, some familiar operators right to us here in the Maryland market.

Miranda:

Sure. Select.

Scott:

Yes. Select and Oh, who else was down there?

Miranda:

I ended up talking to the Select guy for a really long time.

Scott:

Yeah, well, there's definitely I mean, you definitely find overlap. Like I know, G leaf is also up in Pennsylvania. And, you know, I know my I was just talking to my buddy, about some products that were available to him. And we were talking about Rythm and Incredibles and he's out in Ohio. You know, so there's, there's already a lot of...

Miranda:

Grower overlap. Yeah. Which is a cultivator overlap?

Scott:

Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of cool. You know, as long as they're still local. But that's, you know, I guess that's what I'm getting at with the cottage industry stuff is, the more operators, the more license holders there are, I feel like there's going to be more variety, it's also going to increase price competition. You know, which we talked about good things from 2021. I feel like that's something that was definitely good and 2021 prices started coming down. Finally, on some stuff. You know, there was that little bump there, where it felt like everything jumped up for a minute. And you started to see some $65 and $70 eighths here in the state. But now all of a sudden, you've got some stuff from like, Strane just came out with these half ounces that are available for like, you know, a very reasonable price. I don't know if we want to get into talking about specific numbers. But I feel like we started to see some numbers.

Miranda:

I feel like we're seeing more, I don't want to say like budget weed but but good good cannabis and good flower at a reasonable price.

Scott:

Absolutely. Which is super important, right? Especially if we're talking about medicine, which in Maryland right now. That's all we have to talk about. Right?

There is no recreational use. If you are listening to the show, you don't have your license. I would recommend you get it. You know, be be smart about it be, you know, we're lucky enough to have this opportunity in our state at this point. Thankfully, Shit, I don't even know if I could live in a state where they don't have Terp information. I think I might be that spoiled.

Miranda:

That is challenging. You haven't gone on vacation into rec like states, and trying to shop I mean, that's one of the things that irritates me when I go on a menu to order here is I'm looking at at certain strains, and I medicate via what I see in terps not THC numbers. So I'm looking at Leafly, or weedmaps or duchie and I'm not seeing those Terps.

Scott:

Shout out to all you folks running dispensaries here in Maryland, please list your Terp info.

Miranda:

It's super helpful!

Scott:

Because we love it when you do.

Miranda:

Yeah.

Scott:

Whether it's taking a snapshot of the label or typing them in either way. Fantastic. Because yeah, no, I'm the same way. Especially if it's a drive, you know, if I'm going or if I'm in a part of town where I'm not normally. And I want to look and see if if a place has something real quick. Yeah, if it's a strain that I'm not familiar with, or even if it is, you know, I mean, I try to tell people that all the time I don't understand how somebody can say this strain or that strain because, you know, the batches so different.

Miranda:

So different.

Scott:

You know how many times if you see, you know, for we talked about Lavender Jones for a second earlier, you know, when she's on point, you know when she's got myrcene that's like, at least above 0.80%, when she's got linalool that's like above 0.30% or 0.40%.

Miranda:

Yeah.

Scott:

Yeah, she's phenomenal. But every now and then you see her and it's like, awww.

Miranda:

You know, this is poor little lady.

Scott:

Yeah, I know what you can be.

Miranda:

You haven't bloomed to completion.

Scott:

I mean, hey, look, I'm not a grower.

Miranda:

No, there's a lot of stuff that I don't know how to do that growers know how to do.

Scott:

I can't wait to be, uh, Maryland. I can't wait to be, but I'm not a grower yet. So I don't know how hard it is to get those expressions to keep showing themselves, you know, generation after generation or, you know, what causes a certain strain to not quite have it?

Miranda:

I think it's generally a lot of a lot of it is where it's being grown in, in regards to other things.

Scott:

Yeah, I don't know. But how does that translate to the commercial growth? Ya know?

Miranda:

Yeah. Well, they're all they're all kind of mixed in with each other like they were at Sunmed.

Scott:

Yeah, I guess that's true. They were. I feel like some rooms were all of a thing. But maybe that was just sections.

Miranda:

They could have been because I remember the one really, really big room. I was seeing like Guice and Sticky Lemons and Rosetta Stone and...

Scott:

Yeah.

Miranda:

So seeing all those I'm like, cross pollination is happening.

Scott:

Listening to you mention those names has got me thinking back to that trip, I can smell that room again. I can smell that greenhouse.

Miranda:

We had Guice. So good!

Scott:

Yeah, that that place was magical. It was I would love to go but now that they've got the lab open and established because...

Miranda:

I would love to see their lab.

Scott:

I've never seen an extraction lab. I've never seen concentrates being made. But that's something that Sunmed started doing this past year. District Cannabis started doing that this past year as well. Yeah, you know, I mean, the whole Maryland market continues to grow, continue to evolve. You know, I think that was that was probably one of my biggest struggles as a budtender was just knowing what product was on the floor at any given time because so many things...

Miranda:

And knowing what the test was...

Scott:

Well, yeah, I mean, that's a whole different story, but just literally, you know, the amount of product and the amount of new product you know, we talked briefly about some of our favorites for you know, 2021 me with all the new edibles, you know us getting the chocolates. What were some of your favorite strains?

Miranda:

Ooh, I really, the Garcias to me really really hit it out of the park. I'm not a giant sativa smoker. I'm a I'm a hybrid sativa to indica girl. But I'm going to tell you the Cap's Sticky Lemons or Cap's Frozen Lemons. And we can thank Liberty for that grow. And those buds were beautiful they tasted phenomenal. The test was good even when they were low testing. Like a low test 21%.

Scott:

Yeah, typically, typically I want a little more a little more pinene a little more terpinolene, sometimes than I get from some of those sativas, but that was definitely one that I went to more than once.

Miranda:

It made me feel like I was at Disneyland

[laughter]

Scott:

Right that's always great when when you ask somebody how do you want it to make you feel and they give you something like that.

Miranda:

Mmmhmmm You know, Pep-o-Chem and Cap's Frozen Lemons.

Scott:

Oh, Pep-o-Chem,I almost forgot about. I mean rhythm had so much good flower this past year. The Afternoon Delight...

Miranda:

Oh, I just bought some more Afternoon Delight.

Scott:

Was fantastic. Their Cereal Milk...

Miranda:

Cereal Milk is delicious.

Scott:

was really one of the best hybrids I felt like of 2021 I could smoke that if I wanted to chill out or I could smoke that if I still had to get some shit done.

Miranda:

Oh, L'Orange!

Scott:

Mwah! Chef's kiss!

Miranda:

Total chef's kiss.

[laughter]

Scott:

Total chef's kiss, probably, you know, if not the best sativa for me for 2021 Definitely the best smelling.

Miranda:

Oh my goodness. Fresh, fresh oranges

Scott:

I feel like I mean, Purple O from Evermore obviously has that gorgeous like fruit punchy citrusy, beautiful nose to it to no disrespect to Purple O. Yeah that L'Orange, you open that jar and it really just...

Miranda:

All citrus...

Scott:

You know, we used to in the fancy cocktail bar you take the lighter and you squeeze the orange peel and flame it over the drink, ya know, so that you get those oils to kind of burst and leave that super citrusy like roasty warm smell. That L'Orange has that beautiful, beautiful nose to it.

Miranda:

And again, as someone who doesn't smoke sativas...

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

An amazing sativa I cleaned my house. I was like, I'm gonna mop the floor today! Wooo!

Scott:

Right? That's, that's what we're all looking for. I don't I don't understand when somebody says like, oh, I don't smoke sativas at all, like, you never need to, like kick yourself in the ass to go do the laundry?

Miranda:

Right?

Scott:

Cuz I know me personally. You know, it's way easier to go down to the basement with a pipe in my hand than it is to not. To do, you know, whatever, run the vacuum with some music blaring and after I just you know, smoked a half a gram of Rosetta Stone.

Miranda:

Sure.

Scott:

Or Cindy 99 or Jacker Herer.

Miranda:

I love Jack Herer, so good.

Scott:

You know, the classics are classics for a reason.

Miranda:

Yeah, for sure.

Scott:

And Jack is definitely one of those strains that I feel like I was hearing about when I was in my teens, which is a while ago now. *laughs* And yeah, I still enjoy very often to this day.

Miranda:

Yeah. And then there's like Maui Wowie, to me, which is like the perfect sativa chill out.

Scott:

You know, like it's one that's never done it for me.

Miranda:

It makes me stupid and happy. And I'm going to be here and I'm gonna have a good time. And I'm probably gonna dance on a piece of furniture that was not meant to be danced on and smile and sing into your face. Well, not anymore. *both laughing*

Scott:

Good God no.

Miranda:

Yeah, we are no more singing into anybody's face or blowing out anything.

Scott:

Not at the moment. Not at the moment masks on people, fingers crossed. Couple more weeks, this latest surge.

Miranda:

God Please...

Scott:

And maybe we can start getting back to normal a little bit more again. Get vaccinated people, take it seriously. We're both Vax and boosted. That's why we can enjoy each other's company indoors.

Miranda:

Yup.

Scott:

You know, we know that each other is safe and responsible in our behaviors and our exposure to other people. And yeah, we want you all to stay safe. You know, I think we if you don't know people that have been COVID positive at this point. I...

Miranda:

I'm surprised.

Scott:

Yeah. I don't know where you live, or how you manage that. Because I've got a lot of smart, careful friends and I know dozens of people now. I know a few that have been hospitalized for the most part, everybody's had mild symptoms, because for the most part they are vaccinated. Yeah, you know? Yeah. What a wild crazy time. But yeah, 2022 Let's, let's look forward to adult use and being able to pass a blunt of my buddy. *laughs*

Miranda:

Yeah, right!

Scott:

Because that would be cool.

Miranda:

That would be!

Scott:

If I could let you try a strain instead of telling you to go buy your own eighth or pre roll, you know.

Miranda:

It's an it's also a social flower. It's it's meant to be socialized with. It makes you want to be social.

Scott:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, though...

Miranda:

Even if you're couch locked you want to be social. *laughing*

Scott:

I was just about to say, the idea of the couch locked stoner. It's still you know...

Miranda:

Chillin' with your buds...

Scott:

Couch locked playing games online with my friends.

Miranda:

Yeah.

Scott:

PS 5, or, you know, watching zoo movies together. You know, I mean, everybody's so online and so able to hang out that even if you are at home by yourself, you don't have to be by yourself and antisocial.

Miranda:

Right.

Scott:

Thankfully!

Miranda:

Yeah, thankfully.

Scott:

But yeah, I mean, speaking of the online world, next episode...

Miranda:

We want to talk to you!

Scott:

Yeah! We want to know what you want to know about. Right? I mean, that's, that's why we're here in theory. Like I said, we like talking about this stuff, but specifically we like helping people.

Miranda:

And Scott and I can only say but so much to each other. Back and forth for an hour, a week.

Scott:

It's true. We've We've known each other for, *both laughing*,yeah...

Miranda:

More than 20 years...

Scott:

Coming up on 30 years.

Miranda:

Is it 30, Oh, geez.

Scott:

I mean, I think we're probably like three or four years away from 30 years.

Miranda:

You're probably right.

Scott:

I want to say I met you when I was 16 or 17...

Miranda:

That sounds about right.

Scott:

So yeah.

Miranda:

And I'm a year older than you are?

Scott:

I don't know, we don't need to get into all that. *both laughing* We're gonna make you do the math if you want to figure it out.

Needless to say, We are experienced. *laughing*

Miranda:

Very, and we know each other fairly well.

Scott:

You know, we're not sure how often we're going to do these episodes yet, we're going to do them as often as we can. And as often as we feel like we've got things to say. So the idea for the next episode is for, you know, you to tell us, you know, send us some questions, send us some comments, you know, what are you interested in hearing about in the world of cannabis? Do you have questions about you know, cannabis in your own life and your own use? Or just general questions? You know, what do you want to hear about?

Miranda:

Do you want to know what music we listen to when we're high? What I mean, when we could do an entire episode on that.

Scott:

We could do, like...

Miranda:

Many episodes on that. Yeah. Um, do you like to be engaged? Do you? You know, do you like to play music? Do you get creative and paint? Why do you why do you use cannabis?

Scott:

Yeah. Are you one of those people that doesn't smoke sativas? Are you one of those people that doesn't smoke indicas? You know, does pinene affect you, you know, or which terp effects you the most, you know, which terp do you want to hear about the most?

Miranda:

MMMhmmm

Scott:

Yeah, you know, we're totally open to ideas to subjects, because if it gets me to do more research, cool. Even better.

Miranda:

It makes us better cannabis professionals.

Scott:

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what I'm interested in spending my time doing right now is, you know, for my own selfish reasons of trying to figure out how to keep my aging body going *both laughing* and, you know, as and as pain free and as drug free, you know, drug in the traditional pharmaceutical sense, free as possible. Because I'd much rather use cannabis than...

Miranda:

For sure.

Scott:

Even Advil or Tylenol or any of that stuff.

Miranda:

Personally, I'm actually allergic to NSAIDs really. So Aspirin, Tylenol, or not, Tylenol is not an NSAID. But Advil, ibuprofen can't take any of it.

Scott:

I'm not allergic to anything.

Miranda:

Which is why I was put on pain meds for as long as I was.

Scott:

Right.

Miranda:

Yeah, we can we can even talk about pain meds, if you have questions.

Scott:

Yeah, we can talk about what what brought you to cannabis?

Miranda:

MMhmm

Scott:

Right. Yeah. Because that's, that's certainly something. And I mean, that's, you know, when you talk about an end of prohibition, it's not just because we want to smoke blunts, right. [laughter]

Miranda:

[laughter] I mean, that's a bonus.

Scott:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Miranda:

How many of us came to cannabis at a time when we felt like we didn't have anywhere else to go?

Scott:

Yeah, whether it's emotionally whether it's physically, you know, as soon as a national prohibition and reclassification happens, we can really start to get research, you know, scientific research. So you don't have to listen to Miranda and I babble on for hours at a time or what have you about what cannabis does for us? Or what we've learned, whether it be anecdotally or, you know, through our classes, you know, we've both taken classes with The Trichome Institute, and I'm sure we'll be talking about that at some point. I know we've discussed talking to somebody who's going to formal, like, you know, college college cannabis classes.

Miranda:

Getting their masters...

Scott:

Yeah, and hearing about what that's like and what that's focused on. But I mean, that's the reality right now, for the most part, if you want to learn about the plant, whether you're, you know, a bud tender that wants to provide better service to your patients, or whether you're a patient yourself, or whether you're a dispensary owner or grower or what have you. You have to spend the time and the money.

Miranda:

To learn...

Scott:

How to educate yourself on this stuff, by cobbling together, you know...

Miranda:

Whatever you can with books. Yeah, I mean, my cannabis library is absurd.

Scott:

Yeah, I'm jealous. And I want to start borrowing.

Miranda:

Yes, of course!

Scott:

Yeah, because I signed up for my library card. That was a big step for me in 2021. *applause* Renewing my library card, starting to read more again. Hey, something that cannabis got me doing my Trichome Institute book was the first book I had read in quite a while.

Miranda:

That's a beautiful book.

Scott:

It is a gorgeous book. But yeah, the library doesn't have a ton of cannabis books. But I know you do and all these cannabis books you already own. But I am trying to read more, you know?

Miranda:

Yeah, there's so much information. Yeah, so much. You could go from one book to another and still not get a full story. Which is why I have the extensive library of cannabis books that I do.

Scott:

So look forward to the episode where we talk about Miranda's favorite cannabis books. I actually posted that poll for us asking what people's I reposted your @Our.Lady.of.Maryjane post and said, you know, hey, what are your favorite cannabis books? So that's something else you can tell us about if you'd like. I guess we should tell you how to get in touch with us.

Miranda

For sure.

Scott: Yeah, so as we've mentioned, right, I am @YourCannabisCoach on Instagram. The show is @TheHeadyConversations which stands for or I guess the the initials create what, Miranda?

Miranda:

[laughter] T! H !C!

Scott:

Yeah. Which I thought I was being so clever with and it took Miranda...

Miranda:

Miranda was today years old when she figured that out. [laughter]

Scott:

Yeah. When I when I put up the temporary picture on the the Facebook page. So yeah, we're also on Facebook. There's both a page and a group, @the heady conversations, you can find us that way. Shout out to our great friend, Jill, for helping me out super last minute today with that placeholder design. So we could get a little picture up there.

Miranda:

Thanks, Jill.

Scott:

Jill, we appreciate you, buddy. Make sure you support your friends, whatever they do.

Miranda:

Yeah, for sure.

Scott:

If your friend does something, use them to do it if you can.

Miranda:

We're all a community.

Scott:

But yeah, you can you can email us through that, that Facebook page, the email is theheadyconversations@gmail.com. Yeah.

Miranda:

And you can follow me on Instagram, @Our.Lady.of.Maryjane. And I'm there to smoke with you. I'm there to provide education, I am there to tell you what I'm smoking. I'm there to tell you what I'm reading. I take questions there too. So interact with me, let's, let's have a conversation about weed.

Scott:

Yeah, you're gonna see all these spaces kind of exploding over the next few weeks as Miranda and I have both kind of shifted gears to make this one of our primary focuses for 2022, you know, to, to really, you know, put our efforts and energy into helping to grow the knowledge base and the camaraderie and...

Miranda:

And just the communal aspect of cannabis. Because it is a it's a communal flower, whether you're smoking it or you're talking about it. People who love weed generally get along and love each other.

Scott:

It's true. I mean, you know, this connects us to people, you know, people have been using this plant as long as people have been and this plant has been, which is for quite a while at this point. You know...

Miranda:

B.C! [laughter]

Scott:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. BC does not stand for before cannabis. There is no, there is no before cannabis. There really truly is not. You know, I guarantee you those cave paintings were definitely inspired, you know, and I mean, we've got our landrace strains, you know, that are, we know...

Miranda:

Are thousands of years old.

Scott:

Yeah. That stuff so fun. I like digging into those genetics!

Miranda:

And fascinate. And we're here for the science part of it, too. Yeah. But yeah, give us our send, send your questions in. We may even do a live call. We don't know.

Scott:

Yeah, we were talking about that, you know, if we do end up doing, you know, three or four of these shows a month, we might make one, call us, you know, call in have a chat with us. You know, I think ideally, that's what both of us are kind of going for here. You know, I know I told Miranda my favorite podcasts are the ones that feel like you're just listening into a conversation between friends or that you're having a conversation with your friend.

Miranda:

Yeah, absolutely.

Scott:

Shout out to Eddie Mackintosh. Bruto Bhoy is his podcast that I've really been enjoying this past year. And that's that's how I feel when I listen to Eddie. You know.

Miranda:

Just chillin with Eddie.

Scott:

Yeah. And I listen to his podcast and I laugh out loud and people are like, what are you and I'm like, I'm just I'm listening to my buddy, you know? So we feel like that's That's what we're going for. We feel like that's how you have felt listening in on this, that you're just having a conversation with your your cannabis pals.

Miranda:

Yeah!

Scott:

Well, Mr. Runtz...

Miranda:

How you doing over there?

Scott:

Ah, I'm, you know, I'm probably ready to light that second half backup, but I definitely, I mean, that was a solid hour over an hour's worth, because I started this started a little bit late. This is our first podcast if you haven't noticed, so, you know.

Miranda:

And I just lit the second half of mine. And I'm feeling quite, quite silly.

Scott:

Yeah, silly.

Miranda:

I want to I want to just go and watch a movie.

Scott:

Relax. No pain.

Miranda:

Mm hmm.

Scott:

So yeah, we're gonna go enjoy the rest of this Runtz. Yeah, you can always just tell us what you're smoking on to. Yeah. Or tell us what you want us to review?

Miranda:

Yeah. Tell us what you think, you know, if there's a strain that you're curious about? Let's get into it.

Scott:

Yeah. And I'm gonna start doing some reviews on your cannabis coach of some of the stuff that that I get to, if nothing else, because it's my lazy way of doing my journal, which I've gotten out of the habit of doing.

Miranda:

Yeah, I haven't been great at my journal recently.

Scott:

Once upon a time, you know, I mean, I feel like, the more experienced you get, the less you need to rely on.

Miranda:

Oh, for sure.

Scott:

But that definitely is something if you've never heard of a cannabis journal that I recommend to new patients. To keep track of the amount and the type of stuff that you're smoking.

Miranda:

I want to say there's an app too.

Scott:

There's a bunch of apps now, actually, and one of them is Baltimore based. And a buddy of mine, who was one of my regulars at one of the bars that I used to work at is the like, Chief Technical Officer of that company.

Miranda:

That's cool!

Scott:

So, yeah, maybe somebody that will have come on and talk to us in the future. Yeah, there's, yeah. If you want to come on and talk to us in the future, about something, you know, whether you're another content creator, or whether you're in the industry yourself, whether you're brand rep, you know, we're pretty much open to whoever wants to talk to us.

Miranda:

You know, we're here to talk to you.

Scott:

Well, thanks again for joining us, folks. Again, I am Scott.

Miranda:

And I am Miranda.

Scott:

And that was The Heady Conversations!

Miranda:

Peace, y'all!

[OUTRO MUSIC - "Heady Ways" by Fly Golden Eagle]

[Miranda laughs]

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