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Episode 20 : Q&A - What are landrace strains?


Ancient Chinese manuscript with a drawing of cannabis plant.

In this episode, Scott and Miranda answer your questions with a focus on landrace strains!




Transcript


[MUSIC: "Nothing But Flowers" by the Talking Heads]


Miranda 0:16

Hello, and welcome to The Heady Conversations with Scott and Miranda.


Scott 0:22

Welcome back friends. This week, we are finally going to give you that deeper dive on landrace landrace, landrasa.


Miranda 0:38

Landrice.


Scott 0:39

There's there's even actual conflicting information on where the word even comes from. I've seen it as the Dutch landrace, quote unquote, and L-a-n-d-r-a-c-e. But I've also seen it coming from German--


Miranda 0:57

Right.


Scott 0:58

Landrass. L-a-n-d-r-a-s-s-e.


Miranda 1:05

Right.


Scott 1:07

I don't know.


Miranda 1:08

I've seen Danish a lot.


Scott 1:10

Okay.


Miranda 1:11

Yeah. I yeah.


Scott 1:14

I haven't seen that. But there you go, regardless of how you say it, or where the word comes from. What we're talking about is essentially, what you can think of as the heirloom. Breed breeds of cannabis.


Miranda 1:33

The original indicas and sativa is where indica and sativa sort of came from, right.


Scott 1:39

So you know, we've talked multiple times at this point about how the terms indica and sativa really have way less to do with specifically how any given cannabis flower is going to make you feel versus actually describing what type of leaves it has. How tall it gets, how long it takes to get to flowering, where it comes from? what the leaves look like.


Miranda 2:14

Yeah, it's all it's crazy. Yeah, I'm having a moment.


Scott 2:21

It's all very fluid. So yeah, what what these terms actually mean, and where they actually come from is specifically describing the types of plants that were found in different areas and parts of the world. And the characteristics that those plants have. Physically? Yeah, rather than the actual effects that any of those plants have.


Miranda 2:48

Right, because you've got your indicas which are God, phenotypes, indicas. I'm sorry, my brain is just--


Scott 2:57

Yeah, so your indicas are going to be shorter, stockier, more stout plants, they tend to have more broad leaves. And that is because they grew up in rougher, harsher climates, they're, you know, they're going to be the strains that you found in the mountains in Pakistan and Afghanistan and the Himalayas and places like that.


Miranda 3:28

So further away from heat.


Scott 3:29

Yeah.


Miranda 3:30

And further away from the equator.


Scott 3:31

Yes.


Miranda 3:33

Where you get your sativas.


Scott 3:35

Right, and also in windy environments, too, right. So you're not going to see these big, tall, lanky plants that have all this distance between the individual nodes.


Miranda 3:48

Because they would just be blown over.


Scott 3:50

Right. They, you know, if branches weren't snapping, then they'd be going through some serious high stress. Good for some things but not necessarily for cannabis. You want low stress training when you're growing cannabis so that you can control the way the branches grow. Well, you know, some people I should say low stress training where they do stuff like that. So that you can branch out your your stems and control direction but also density within the plant right so that you're getting things right opened up inside so you're getting more even distribution of the light and the moisture as well. But yeah, generally you're not looking to high stress, your grow your plants. No, that's that's the the environment where indicas came from, right? Probably not probably definitely rockyier soil where you're not necessarily putting roots out as deep. But yeah, then grow and more stout and stocky so that you can survive the wind.


Miranda 5:07

And the winters


Scott 5:08

and the winters too. Yeah, sure.


Miranda 5:10

Some seriously snowy winters in those mountains.


Scott 5:13

Yeah, I don't know, I was gonna grow season is like in the Himalayas. But yeah, typically you're gonna have shorter flowering times, right. So that's, there are lots of reasons I think we've mentioned this before, right that you see less sativa in the market, because you get less...


Miranda 5:35

Yield.


Scott 5:36

From sativa plants in general than you get from indicas. And that that's for a number of reasons. When you get a shorter, more stout plant, you're going to have more individual space and places for those flowers to grow. Especially if you're doing stuff like that low stress training and topping off your flowers regularly to get all kinds of different, you know, branches to sprout up where you want them to. But also because the vegetation and flowering times both are going to be shorter than your sativas are.


Miranda 6:15

Right.


Scott 6:16

Your sativas because like Miranda said, they're going to grow closer to the equator. So they're going to have more access to more sunlight and warmer temperatures, and thus more rain and humidity and--


Miranda 6:33

Much more humidity. Yeah, for sure. So, almost longer flowering times.


Scott 6:39

Not almost Yeah. Yeah, and because those plants want to just continue to grow, right, they want to soak up that sunlight or light source, whatever that energy and just grow a lot of sativa is naturally occurring. We'll be over six feet tall. A bunch of indicas that you find--


Miranda 7:04

Are going to be your shorter stockier.


Scott 7:05

Yeah, they end up around that like three to five foot range and be these big bushier you know, kind of you know, round...


Miranda 7:17

Bushes.


Scott 7:18

Yeah, bushes. Whereas the sativa is will tend to kind of more naturally develop that. You know what we call now Lollipopping in the grow world where you you know, intentionally stripped down all of your kind of inner fan leaves to really allow airflow is a big thing in growing. You need to make sure that there's good solid airflow throughout the entire plant. Otherwise you can develop mold issues, because things are just getting too moist and sticky.


Miranda 7:54

Yuck.


Scott 7:55

Yeah.


Miranda 7:58

And also I was I would just sat here and thought about this. I almost feel like the word weed came from the whole sativa plant and the way that it grows because it's so tall, spindly and like wiry. It grows like a weed.


Scott 8:10

I think we talked about that in one of the early episodes. Yeah, the fact that it will grow you know to grow cannabis is not hard


Miranda 8:20

to grow good cannabis.


Scott 8:24

takes knowledge and know how and and care and consideration but if you just want to grow a big old plant in your backyard, you could probably throw some seeds in the ground and let that happen.


Miranda 8:37

It might not be good, right?


Scott 8:40

I should say if you live in an area where it's legal for you to throw seeds in the ground. Most places even if it's legal to grow, you are required to have your plants either in a like fenced in area. So it's under lock and key. You know, there's specific laws to try to make sure that plants aren't getting into kids hands or even wildlife. You don't want a bunch of stoned deer running around your area.


Miranda 9:07

Oh, that's the worst. They're messy. You've been talking about messy animals when they're stoned.


Scott 9:12

Deer messy enough as it is.


Miranda 9:14

Add weed to that.


Scott 9:15

Deer will hit your car regularly. They're not the brightest. But yeah, anyway.


Miranda 9:22

No spacial awareness.


Scott 9:24

I mean, I guess that's our fault for encroaching on all their habitat at this point. But especially if you live here in the mid Atlantic, you know, there's a whole stretch of time where you've got to be alert about your surroundings when it comes to mating season with the deer because there'll be just hoppin all over the place.


Miranda 9:45

And in some places just after 6pm. That dusk period. Not a good time.


Scott 9:53

For true for true.


Miranda 9:56

So let's talk about some strains.


Scott 9:58

Yeah, surely so So, you know, we should state that even a lot of places now go so far as to say the strains that are available are landrace based, and a lot of places even call them specifically heirloom as opposed to landrace. Now, because they admit that even with the genetics that we're talking about, right, so when we talk about landrace, we talk about the strains that come from a specific place that are supposedly untouched genetics.


Miranda 10:42

But we all know how that goes.


Scott 10:45

Having said that, we all know that humans have been using cannabis for millennia, literally, we know this 1000s of years, we've had a relationship to the plant. And people humans have naturally done quote, unquote, genetic engineering on plants, just over time by selectively breeding certain traits into things, right. So a lot of the sativa landrace strains that would normally take some of these strains eight to 10 months to fully grow, cure, et cetera.


Miranda 11:28

They've been genetically evolved to speed up that process, too.


Scott 11:33

Yeah, right to shorten flowering time to shorten vegetative time.


Miranda 11:37

To yield as much as possible.


Scott 11:39

To yield as much as possible to also yield more quickly than they were naturally inclined to do. So yeah, I mean, if you really want to be sure, I mean, obviously, there are seed companies out there. There is no shortage of seed companies out there that have, you know, entire landrace sections of their websites and their offerings available to you. But I feel like the most honest ones will actually tell you, most of these are heirloom, some of them we do believe to be landrace. But that's with the acknowledgement that, you know, certain traits have been, you know, bred into them at this point. But there are there are still, I would say several dozen that are commercially available. Yeah. But, you know, originally, we know there had to be--


Miranda 12:36

Millions.


Scott 12:38

Millions is probably a hyperbolic certainly hundreds. Yeah, certainly hundreds.


Miranda 12:46

If not 1000's.


Scott 12:47

If not 1000's. I mean, we know that there were what? 300 - 400 different apple trees, something like that. Yeah. I don't know, somebody's going to some nerds going to call up and correct me. Right and incorrectly.


Miranda 13:01

But yeah, I mean, I mean, depending on the certain parts of the world that you go into, I mean, we don't even know if there were landrace strains in North America at some point.


Scott 13:12

I would think there had to be.


Miranda 13:13

But there's like no record that we know of.


Scott 13:18

Yeah, I don't know.


Miranda 13:19

So there's, I mean, that's why I say millions, because who knows where things haven't been investigated far enough. That I mean, we have a list of some, but the list is not extensive, or complete by any, by any stretch. I don't think.


Scott 13:35

At one point everything was connected. Was cannabis around while everything was still connected or not? Yeah, if it was around before everything was still connected while everything was still connected back in the Pangea days, then yeah, they you know, you could absolutely be correct, there could have been millions of different strains available at one point in time. But regardless, we know that there were surely hundreds, if not 1000's. And it's a shame that we have so few now, but some of them are great.


Miranda 14:11

And still available.


Scott 14:13

Yeah, if nothing else, you can certainly find a bunch of them as parents in a lot of your favorite strains these days, too. Because that's something that a lot of the modern growers have now done in order to because the landrace strains weren't necessarily strong.


Miranda 14:35

No, low testing.


Scott 14:37

They were well, I mean, it just depends. I'm sure some of--


Miranda 14:40

I mean, low testing. I mean low testing as compared to now.


Scott 14:45

Right.


Miranda 14:46

Yeah.


Scott 14:46

Well, that's and that's exactly you know, the point that I was getting to where a lot of people will take Durban Poison, which is one of my favorite sativas is an absolutely fantastic smoke both in and flower form and Durban Poison concentrates are also you know, usually really good sativa leaning concentrates for people. For me Durban is high focus, but also a little bit of energy boost too. But yeah, typically not high THC.


Miranda 15:18

Right.


Scott 15:18

And I think, you know, I think we've talked about this in the past before too. I don't even necessarily know that energy boost quote unquote is a thing a lot of the times with cannabis for me, but just not being draggy.


Miranda 15:18

Right.


Scott 15:22

You know.


Miranda 15:28

And also what you're doing.


Scott 15:34

Then the addition of the mental stimulation that without it right, the couch clock kind of creates a more energized feeling. When really it's just not sedative.


Miranda 15:49

Right, right. Right. Anyway, but yeah, I mean, let me Lambs Bread is one that was like my first sativa, [whistfully] my first sativa by who had I remember who grow it who grew it at that point. But :ambs Bread was i God love. First time I had it was testing it like 14%. And it just hit me right in the right spot. I was super euphoric, really creative, like great focus. It was a fantastic strain. I do miss. I haven't had Lambs Bread flower in a really long time.


Scott 16:28

Lambs Bread, aka Lambs Breath as the other name for it from Jamaica. Yeah, fun fact about Lambs Bread supposedly Bob Marley's favorite strain, which totally makes sense, because being a naturally occurring strain in Jamaica. Yeah, it's probably you know, some of the stuff that Bob either smoked the most or smoked first or smoked first and smoked the most. If it's growing in your backyard, which cannabis is inclined to do in such a climate as a place like Jamaica. Surely a young man growing up in that environment is probably going to smoke a lot of it. But yeah, Durban Poison, as I mentioned, comes from the Durban Malawi Kilimanjaro region of Africa. Acapulco Gold.


Miranda 17:22

Mmmmmmmmmm.


Scott 17:24

I've only had Acapulco Gold once.


Miranda 17:27

One time and same for me.


Scott 17:29

It was an absolute mind blowing experience. I loved it.


Miranda 17:34

Yeah. I've no bad things to say.


Scott 17:36

It was gorgeous. It tasted great. It smelled great. It looked great. Yeah, it was just...


Miranda 17:44

It was great.


Scott 17:45

Beautiful, beautiful flower. That gold clearly comes from the coloration when you grind it up. It's got a lot of yellow, kind of gold, you know, dark yellow pistals all over it. And when you grind it up, it kind of gets that glittery yellow gold coloration to it. But yeah, really, if you can get your hands on it.


Miranda 17:45

Highly recommended.


Scott 17:51

Nobody, nobody in the Maryland market.


Miranda 18:14

Let us know.


Scott 18:17

Somebody down in DC does grow it and I don't remember who not to look at. But I think I want to say I saw it on Tacoma's menu at some point when I was scrolling through stuff, but yeah, Panama Red you said lambs read was the first sativa the you smoked Panama Red might be the first sativa that I smoked.


Miranda 18:41

Yeah?


Scott 18:41

Yeah, we used to get some Jamaican Red Hair. But then I also got stuff that was called now who knows? Who knows actually was or not. I'm talking back in the brick weed days. And the reason it was called brick weed is because literally in order to you know, smuggle the stuff transport the most. I don't know, you know, for whatever reason they were doing it with the with the cannabis smugglers at the time were doing was taking just giant batches of cannabis and kind of not kind of definitely using pressure to compress the cannabis down into these bricks. Yeah, of these compressed vegetal material. seeds, stems everything and just a wee tiny bit of flower and all into these literal bricks of cannabis. So yeah.


Miranda 19:46

It was always really dry.


Scott 19:48

Yes. Super, super semi stale, stemmy, seedy. I mean by the time you picked through an ounce bag, you will really legitimately lucky if you got a little over a quarter. You know, maybe if you if you knew the right dude, who was you know, high enough up the food chain you might be getting stuff that you could get a half ounce of flower out of an ounce of, of vegetable material. But yeah, anyway supposedly it was Jamaican Red and Panama Red.


Miranda 20:29

Nice.


Scott 20:29

Which I wonder now if Jamaican Red was Lambs Bread or something different? I don't know.


Miranda 20:34

Who knows?


Scott 20:35

Because I've never I've heard the term many times. But I've never seen a strain called Jamaican Red same in any dispensary or adult use market. No can think of no. But yeah, those are. Oh, yeah, Thai, Chocolate Thai.


Miranda 20:53

Which I haven't seen Chocolate Thai. But I feel like we've had some Thai strains.


Scott 20:58

I think again, I think I've seen Chocolate Thai down in DC. But yeah, we've got a bunch of different Thai strains in the Maryland market. We've got the what's the Garcia?


Miranda 21:13

Um, shit. I don't remember.


Scott 21:18

Oh, sorry. That's I'm--


Miranda 21:20

I'm thinking Lemon Thai here.


Scott 21:21

And I was Burmese Mimosa, which actually might be I don't know, I don't remember what the genetics on that are. I might have just been pulling that out. But yeah, we've got Thai Lights.


Miranda 21:36

Thai Lights. Thai G.


Scott 21:38

By Verano, Thai G, which was also from Verano, which was a great smoke. Much more indica leaning than the Thai Lights normally is. I don't remember what the cross was on that.


Miranda 21:53

We usually have a Lemon Thai too on the market.


Scott 21:57

But yeah, obviously those strains are again, based on what we you know, you can tell from the names, right. Acapulco is Mexico. And you know, like we said, Africa, Colombia, with the Panama Red and the Colombian Gold and then the Thai and Chocolate Thai from Asia. You're talking about those warm equatorial regions.


Miranda 22:23

Steamy right. Humid, hot, moist.


Scott 22:26

Lots of sun. Right. Then you get into the indica landrace strains.


Miranda 22:33

Right.


Scott 22:34

And you're talking about your Afghani...


Miranda 22:37

Hindu Kush.


Scott 22:38

Yes. Lashkar Gah.


Miranda 22:41

Which I've never ever seen no.


Scott 22:43

Well a lot of these are--


Miranda 22:45

Pipe dream, literally. Yeah.


Scott 22:49

Yeah, I mean, a lot of these obviously, like we said, are not particularly high yielding or high THC. Probably high terpenoid. Yeah, you know, on most of them naturally occurring if you if you grow them. I actually read an article recently. And I can't believe I didn't pull this up to include in this episode, but I totally forgot about it until now. About excuse me, it was a question of what is the strongest weed in the world, right, like naturally occurring weed in the world, like what place has the strongest and it was about this African tribe. And the one thing they were a transitory people who they are, what do you call it? Migratory migratory?


Miranda 23:49

Yeah. Okay.


Scott 23:50

So they traveled around. And the one thing that they brought with them from place to play seriously, is they would dig up these mother plants from the camp, you know, right after that season passed, right, and take their plants with them from one place to another to another to another. Right. So, you know, we just talked about the fact that, you know, people have been doing quote, unquote, genetic engineering through selective breeding. Well, this tribe has literally been doing it uninterrupted,


Miranda 24:22

And unintentionally.


Scott 24:24

Well, I mean, I'm sure they know what they're doing.


Miranda 24:27

Oh, yeah. But like, you know, sun, soil, blah, blah, blah, wherever they, wherever they end up, and they replant. Right. They're not taking I'm sure a coffin full of dirt to replant these guys.


Scott 24:41

Correct. But they but they probably are taking the strongest, most productive plants, right? You would assume?


Miranda 24:48

Yeah. Oh, for sure.


Scott 24:48

So yeah, kind of the better genetics the you know--


Miranda 24:53

The stronger the genetics.


Scott 24:54

Right, because I'm sure I don't let's let's say George and Dan, right, I'm sure in this village, somebody is going around saying, Yo, bro, you gotta smoke the shit George grew this year. That shit is fire.


Miranda 25:09

Right, right. Right.


Scott 25:10

We got to make sure we take his plant to the next camp, right? And all the sudden, George OG is birthed and you've got your, your landrace strain taken on the genetics of, you know, the strongest plant in the village time and time again. Right. And that's in theory what some of these because I'm sure in some of the Nepali climates and you know, the mountains of Afghanistan and stuff like that they were they had to be hardy plants. Yeah, like we it only serves to reason that people were preserving the the strongest, you know, survival of the fittest kind of idea, right?


Miranda 26:01

Best plant wins.


Scott 26:03

But yeah, the you know, that's, that's landrace, pretty much. You're talking about terroir, you're talking about different types of characteristics that come from the plants themselves, rather than having been bred, you know, specifically to create a certain effect or feel or...


Miranda 26:31

Right. So that begs the question to me, with strains that are still out and about in the market like Afghani were the terpenes s much higher? I mean, clearly, it probably wasn't a 30%. Or, like back in the 70s. There wasn't a 30% (THC) back in the 70s.


Scott 26:38

No, there was barely 13%. Yeah. Back in the 70's.


Miranda 26:58

So I wonder, I wonder to some extent, you know, now that it's been genetically engineered and genetically altered, how much of it is still truly landrace?


Scott 27:09

Right. And then that's, you know, like I said, I feel like the the most honest companies, maybe the most educated companies is a better way to put it, because some places might not they're not trying to be deceptive, or anything like that. It's just you don't know what you don't know.


Miranda 27:32

Right.


Scott 27:33

So the whatever. Seeds of Durban Poison or Afghani or Acapulco Gold that you're getting, by the very definition, generally speaking, have been genetically steered absolutely into creation.


Miranda 27:54

Which is why you have Afghani with like 3.0%, myrcene. and whatnot.


Scott 28:02

Right? You would assume, right? Because, you know, again, you're you're you're...


Miranda 28:06

At 30%.


Scott 28:08

You're saying, you know, Dan's version of Afghani, that's where you get into the phenotypes. And that's where you get into the the pheno hunting now has created these monster genetics.


Miranda 28:21

Yeah.


Scott 28:22

Where, you know, and Chef Brandon talked about that, right?


Miranda 28:26

Said, it's no longer natural.


Scott 28:28

Right? Is it? Is it still fair to call the cannabis that we're smoking in 2022 through these medical and adult use programs around the country and around the world, where, you know, the pH is being controlled to the enth degree and the nuts, you know, the nutrients are being pumped through, you know, whether it's aeroponically or hydroponically? You know, at that point, when you're growing the plant to perform at such a high level and to create such specific desired effects? Is it still fair to talk about it as if it's just--


Miranda 29:13

A plant.


Scott 29:14

Oh, well, you know, you throw a seed in the ground, man, well, if you throw a seed, and there's another, you know, even if it's a female plant, if there's a male plant within a mile of, you know, plant could grow, you know, could get seeded out and all of a sudden, you don't have as much room.


Miranda 29:34

Exactly.


Scott 29:35

And so, yeah, I mean, it's, it's interesting to note, that, that it's an interesting conversation to have. And like I said, I feel like it's an honest conversation that everybody needs to have and it doesn't, it doesn't matter, you know, I mean, it's certain people, certain people don't care. It's all it's all about. I'm creating that super high THC lab. Well, you see that with brands that apparently don't care about terps they just care about creating that THC.


Miranda 30:10

Girl....


Scott 30:15

But yeah, it's, you know, it's what are you? What are you? What's most effective for you? At the end of the day, right? I mean, in theory, that's what we're talking about. And that's what people are going to steer themselves towards, is what gives them the greatest effect. And the most beneficial.


Miranda 30:35

I feel like yeah, we're seeing a better or more of an uptick towards people who are cruising the market for higher terpenes not necessarily lower THC, because they want the high THC as well. But I really feel like people are really looking at those terpenes now, so I feel like that's a good thing. It needs to happen.


Scott 31:00

For sure.


Miranda 31:01

Because THC is just gonna get too high, Ish, maybe.


Scott 31:07

But yeah, I mean, depends on I've talked, I think a few times at this point about the fact that high THC and no terps. For me, it's just a headache, generally speaking, yeah. I'm just not gonna get certainly not the as good of an effect, as I do from high terps. But a lot of times I don't even get a positive effect at all. It's just more of a head buzz, which is generally speaking, not necessarily what I'm looking for.


Miranda 31:44

Interestingly enough, I smoked some really high THC, low terp flower the other day, and it did absolutely nothing for me. Right, it was like, I hadn't even smoked joint at all. That's, you know, no headache. I wasn't even slightly bemused by life. I was just in general, left with a really disappointing smoke that I just essentially burned money. So that was that was very, I don't know, ineffective, and very made me very grumpy.


Scott 32:19

You know, that's, that's an experience that I've had with concentrates more often than not. And sometimes even with a pen, just, you know.


Miranda 32:29

For sure with pens.


Scott 32:30

It's it's not, the terps got to be there. And I feel like I'm not trying to be snooty about it. But I feel like this synthetic or derivative terps just don't it's not that they don't give me effect. They don't give me the same type of effect that flower does.


Miranda 32:53

That smoking flower does. Exactly, there's a complete difference. And there's a there's a big disconnect. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a I'm not a big vape smoker, but I will choose a joint over a vape any old day. Even if it is a landrace strain too much I do believe I have a Lambs Bread vape over there in the in the bowl.


Scott 33:20

Well, but you know, we've talked about before unless it's live resin. And even still, then it's still not necessarily strain specific. A lot of times they're creating a terpene blend or a terpene cocktail mix...


Miranda 33:37

That mimics the terpenes of the specific strain.


Scott 33:41

Yeah, I think it was, ironically enough Strane. The company s t r a n e. That put up it was a really cool video of concentrate juice, basically sitting there with the Terps on top. And then the little stir hand goes down into a beeker and mixes the terps into a I mean, it was cool, but yeah, also the Miranda's kind of make it a cringe face. Because yeah.


Miranda 34:13

It's cringey.


Scott 34:13

It's it's crazy. That shouldn't. Like I'm not. I'm not really into adding terps I'm not talking down about anybody who enjoys those cartridges or no company that makes those cartridges. I'm talking about what my body feels and feels good on and with. And generally speaking, it's just not cartridges.


Miranda 34:37

Yeah, same.


Scott 34:38

Now. I mean, I did tell Miranda's story a little bit earlier about a situation where I was watching a movie and the only thing that was available to me at the time was a pen and it had been, I don't even know six or seven months probably since I had hit a pen. I mean, I still have demos that I got while I was working at the dispensary that I haven't screwed onto a battery or touched.


Miranda 35:04

Same.


Scott 35:05

Yeah. Because they just they gave us way too many of those. And I mean hey free THC is free THC I guess but at the same time, if it ain't doing it for me


Miranda 35:16

Yeah, why smoke it?


Scott 35:17

Yeah, it's just not just not.


Miranda 35:19

We need to put that on a t shirt.


Scott 35:21

Right?


Miranda 35:24

Um, but anyway.


Scott 35:25

Life's too short to drink crappy coffee is, you know pretty popular one life is definitely too short to smoke crappy THC products and not even necessarily crappy but THC products that don't work for you and you know, provide what you need.


Miranda 35:43

Exactly.


Scott 35:44

Yeah, so if you want to be super snooty about it, if you want to smoke a true landrace landrus strain. Your best bet is to go to one of those places, whether it be Jamaica, whether it be you know, the the mountains of you know, the Himalayas, Nepal, or what have you. That's, that's what you're looking at, you know, actually going to one of those places and experiencing the plant growing wild. Because that's the, you know, obviously that's the only genetic selection or that's happening in there is natural selection.


Miranda 36:32

Yeah.


Scott 36:33

Whatever, you know, nature has done to make sure that the hardiest and healthiest of the plants survives and propagates. But yeah, speaking of propagation, the third type of landrace strain, that we haven't talked about yet, is kind of the grandfather of autoflowering Cannabis.


Miranda 36:57

Right. It was discovered in the 20's discovered (sarcastically) some dude found it. In Yeah, in Russia i believe.


Scott 37:09

But, you know, talking about that selective breeding, and the different types of landrace that are, you know, mixed in with genetics. Now, ruderalis are one of those that were specifically use to control the time and gestation period, the flowering and--


Miranda 37:37

Very short flowering period.


Scott 37:39

Vegetative times involved in these cannabis strains. Right. So you may not have heard of any ruderalis strains, specifically, but you probably are smoking something that's got some high amount of ruderalis bred into it, because that's going to allow them to grow very hardy, and short flowering time. So when you pair that with the stuff, the the low stress training, and of course, the types of lights that we have nowadays. Yeah, you're you're gonna get--


Miranda 38:24

Six to seven weeks for flowering, which is yeah, that's no time at all.


Scott 38:30

No. A lot of seeds that you buy. Well, I mean, it just depends on the strain. Yeah. But it's not uncommon to see strains that have flowering times of six to eight weeks. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah, so I think I think that does it. For the Landrace strains for the most part, if you have additional questions about what they are or where you can find them, probably best to search Leafly or Weedmaps in your area, honestly, for some of the strains that we've mentioned, or to try to find other strains that we may not have mentioned there were some more indicas that we didn't get to but.


Miranda 39:18

What were they again, they were some of them were very fun.


Scott 39:22

They are fun to say and I don't of course know if I'm pronouncing them all correctly, but Mazar orMazar m a z a r, is another really old strain that we've known about for a long time. Lashkar Gah we already mentioned, Tashkurgan. You know, I don't know if it's the time I've spent in Stockholm that makes me feel like I should say that Swedish or not. And then my favorite is Sheberghan and no regerts when you smoke Sheberghan flower.


Miranda 39:59

Nope.


Scott 39:59

Ermergerd!


Miranda 40:02

fucking adorable.


Scott 40:03

I got it. Yeah, it's very fun S H E B E R G H A N. They look like beautiful flower.


Miranda 40:15

Very purple.


Scott 40:16

If you look them up, there's definitely some cool looking stuff out there. I always think the indicas look crazier. You get those dark purple colors--


Miranda 40:26

Some blues.


Scott 40:27

It just really makes the trichomes--


Miranda 40:29

Pop.


Scott 40:30

Stick out. Yeah, literally and figuratively, I guess. But yeah, you know, if you're, if you are a grower, if you live in a state where growing is legal for you, you can absolutely go check out some of these seed companies and you know, search for either heirloom or landrace strains.


Miranda 40:53

Yeah, they're definitely available for you.


Scott 40:55

Yeah, see, see about growing them yourself. Or you can also, you know, like I said, Go on something like a Leafly or a Weedmaps. And if you type in the name of a Durban Poison or an Acapulco Gold or Afghani, you know, you're very likely to come up with lots of different kind of modern takes on or modern twists on those genetics that are available to you.


And the Kushes as well.


Oh, yeah, for sure.


Miranda 41:30

Yeah.


Scott 41:31

I mean, Kushes in general are if it says Kush or if it says Haze, depending on if I'm trying to feel up or feel down? Or I guess I should have said that the other way down, or Kush or Haze, Kush being down Haze being more up? Yeah, for sure. I'm definitely Durban Poison is one of the first strains that I would like to try to grow when it is legal for me to grow.


Miranda 41:58

I would love to have some Acapulco Gold. That I mean.


Scott 42:03

Absolutely. Uh, yeah, that.


Miranda 42:08

That it's, it's it's one of those experiences that you don't you have once in your life and forever you are chasing.


Scott 42:16

Um, yeah, I'm trying to have it more. I don't want it to be a once in my life. No, like somebody to grow some Acapulco Gold.


Miranda 42:24

Or we just need to go to Mexico.


Scott 42:25

Please, somebody grow some Acapulco Gold. Are you growers listening? Speaking of listening, as always, folks, we greatly appreciate you listening and tuning in. This question was asked by several of you across the period of several weeks, if you have a question or any feedback about the show, but especially a question, we love doing these question and answer shows, we love the opportunity to look this stuff up and learn more about it ourselves. As you know, we're all about education. So if you have any questions, please send them our way so that we can learn about them together.


Miranda 43:07

And somebody grow some Acapulco Gold.


Scott 43:09

Yeah, for sure. If you have some Acapulco Gold being grown in a recreational market somewhere that we can access please let me know. I'll be in California in October I don't have any trips planned for Colorado right now but who knows have weed will travel?


Miranda 43:09

Yeah.


Scott 43:28

Even with these gas prices, I'm still willing to travel for some actually I'll be in Ohio again. So one of these days I gotta drive across the line to Michigan.


Miranda 43:38

And do it up?


Scott 43:39

Do do what do what our buddy Chris do and bring you some reviews from out of state. You know, we brought you DC but it would be cool for us to...


Miranda 43:51

Venture out.


Scott 43:52

Branch into I know I saw Delaware is putting forth a referendum for adult use. So we might have something close by real soon.


Miranda 44:03

New Jersey.


Scott 44:04

New Jersey we've already got which is not that far away. But it's also Jersey.


Miranda 44:09

It's also the traffic.


Scott 44:11

The traffic too.


Miranda 44:12

But Jersey.


Scott 44:14

My stepsisters are in Delaware. So that gives me reason enough to go up there plus I playing bocce tournaments up in New Castle so shout out St. Anthony Club Bocce Team. You can always find us at the website www.theheadyconversations.com There's transcripts there. There's links, there's pictures. There's good times.


Miranda 44:39

Yeah. You can also check us out on Instagram. I am Our Lady Maryjane.


Scott 44:45

And I can be found at Your Cannabis Coach. We hope you will continue being well to yourselves and each other.


Miranda 44:53

Yeah, just take care.


[MUSIC: "Nothing But Flowers" by the Talking Heads]


Scott 45:00

[Immitating a Baltimore accent] You know, he's from Sheberghan, Hon.




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